So may I ask what do contributors think of the new pair of houses on the Ferry Road in Studland (next to Studland Bay House on the site of the old cricket ground)?
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Sory Nick, but it's above the cricket ground - although whether Studland still has a team I don't know. I played (very badly) for them 20odd years ago.
The houses themselves are, I think, OK.
Nice juxtapostion with the Colonels' house, sorry, son of the colonels' house.
Fantastic. About time darkest Purbeck embraced the new instead of hankering after the past (whilst also knocking it down in the same breath - for flats of course).
The two buildings never went before the planning committee, they were waived through by officers despite the fact that the plot is outside the settlement boundary. According to the PDC website not a single letter of objection.
Outside the settlement boundary? How can that be? Isn't that one of the manin reasons the Pier Head proposals were turned down? I think we should be told ..
12.58 pm is being a tad economical with the facts. I wonder why.
A few minutes on the PDC website revealed the background. Planning approval was first granted for two houses on this site as far back as 1986. Why it was granted then I do not know, however having accepted the principle PDC could not go back on it without forking out compensation.
Permission for two pretend Edwardian houses was granted in 2004 and some work carried out (see http://www.purbeck.gov.uk/planning/PlanAppDisp.asp?RecNum=28910)
The recent application was dealt with as a matter delegated to officers presumably because the new plans were for rather smaller buildings and this was not regarded as a controversial change. Does anyone think it was controversial?
The comparison with the Pierhead is fanciful. These buildings are screened from public view by a high hedge and will, I imagine, have equally high gates as a security measure. They do not form part or a an urban street scene so the question of them "working"with nearby buildings does not arise. It is likely that if the Pierhead proposal had covered the same proportion of the site as these will it would have been accepted in one of the many forms it has been offered in. Its size was the main reason for refusal.
Where both are on all fours is than the planners in each case have said that they will permit development despite the sites being outside the settlement boundary. Perhaps the lesson is size matters.
Its great modern architecture, why hide it behind a hedge? But putting one similar Huf Haus on the PH site and selling it to Johnathan Ross or the like would be mad. Is that what you are proposing?
There was a previous scheme similar to the one in Studland proposed for the pier site. In 1997 two blocks of two apartments were proposed set in landscaped parkland. Can't remeber why but that was refused too.
No 10.45, I am not proposing reproducing this development on the PH site. The point I was trying to make is that one of the considerations that looms large in the minds of planning officers is how well a proposal will integrate into the townscape. Its a lot less problematic on Ferry Road because of the high hedges than at the bottom of Swanage High Street on a site all parties agree is of considerable importance.shbmco
I would suggest the site should have only had one of them on it and I should think that given their dominant nature whoever has spent the last couple of years doing up the bugalow next door would be thankfully of the trees in between. If you were going to spend that sort of money and I also heard £3m, you'd want a bit more provacy from the next door neighbours .. I'm waiting for the details to come up on the Lane Fox website.
I believe they are on the market for 4.5 million with an out of area estate agent, Rumours were that two chelsea football players were buying them-but this could well be a 'swanage rumour'! Apparatly there are for sale boards outside them now!
Just seen them Sat/Sun when visiting the beer festival, they look dreadful in that setting, these are urban houses where i think they look brilliant, this setting is all wrong.
Lane fox indeed, £4.5mil each, being bought by a mother and daughter (so the arcihtect tells me)So a cool £9m for both, the one on the right is complete inside, gardens just being finished and the left hand side one is still having finishing touches to the inside done.
PS.. I work for a land surveying company and did an as built survey of site yesterday (25/09/2007)
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Sory Nick, but it's above the cricket ground - although whether Studland still has a team I don't know. I played (very badly) for them 20odd years ago.
The houses themselves are, I think, OK.
Nice juxtapostion with the Colonels' house, sorry, son of the colonels' house.
I think Huff houses are fantastic and i would love to own one (no chance on my salary) however I am amazed they got planning permission from PDC !!!!
If memory serves I think that they originally asked for twice as many.
Fantastic. About time darkest Purbeck embraced the new instead of hankering after the past (whilst also knocking it down in the same breath - for flats of course).
The two buildings never went before the planning committee, they were waived through by officers despite the fact that the plot is outside the settlement boundary. According to the PDC website not a single letter of objection.
Outside the settlement boundary? How can that be? Isn't that one of the manin reasons the Pier Head proposals were turned down? I think we should be told ..
See Case Officer comments at:
http://www.purbeck.gov.uk/Planning/Web%20Importer%20Attachments/31577/00007B9A.PDF
12.58 pm is being a tad economical with the facts. I wonder why.
A few minutes on the PDC website revealed the background. Planning approval was first granted for two houses on this site as far back as 1986. Why it was granted then I do not know, however having accepted the principle PDC could not go back on it without forking out compensation.
Permission for two pretend Edwardian houses was granted in 2004 and some work carried out (see http://www.purbeck.gov.uk/planning/PlanAppDisp.asp?RecNum=28910)
The recent application was dealt with as a matter delegated to officers presumably because the new plans were for rather smaller buildings and this was not regarded as a controversial change. Does anyone think it was controversial?
The comparison with the Pierhead is fanciful. These buildings are screened from public view by a high hedge and will, I imagine, have equally high gates as a security measure. They do not form part or a an urban street scene so the question of them "working"with nearby buildings does not arise. It is likely that if the Pierhead proposal had covered the same proportion of the site as these will it would have been accepted in one of the many forms it has been offered in. Its size was the main reason for refusal.
Where both are on all fours is than the planners in each case have said that they will permit development despite the sites being outside the settlement boundary. Perhaps the lesson is size matters.
thanks for a thorough answer.
such a rare treat,
Its great modern architecture, why hide it behind a hedge?
But putting one similar Huf Haus on the PH site and selling it to Johnathan Ross or the like would be mad. Is that what you are proposing?
There was a previous scheme similar to the one in Studland proposed for the pier site. In 1997 two blocks of two apartments were proposed set in landscaped parkland. Can't remeber why but that was refused too.
No 10.45, I am not proposing reproducing this development on the PH site. The point I was trying to make is that one of the considerations that looms large in the minds of planning officers is how well a proposal will integrate into the townscape. Its a lot less problematic on Ferry Road because of the high hedges than at the bottom of Swanage High Street on a site all parties agree is of considerable importance.shbmco
I think ther's another going up.
Heard a rumour that the asking price will be £3mill.
I would suggest the site should have only had one of them on it and I should think that given their dominant nature whoever has spent the last couple of years doing up the bugalow next door would be thankfully of the trees in between. If you were going to spend that sort of money and I also heard £3m, you'd want a bit more provacy from the next door neighbours .. I'm waiting for the details to come up on the Lane Fox website.
The houses look great but who's selling them?
I believe they are on the market for 4.5 million with an out of area estate agent, Rumours were that two chelsea football players were buying them-but this could well be a 'swanage rumour'! Apparatly there are for sale boards outside them now!
Just seen them Sat/Sun when visiting the beer festival, they look dreadful in that setting, these are urban houses where i think they look brilliant, this setting is all wrong.
Who is the agent the?
Lane Fox ... nothing on their website yet.
(And, according to their site, Dorset is now in the Thames Valley!)
Lane fox indeed, £4.5mil each, being bought by a mother and daughter (so the arcihtect tells me)So a cool £9m for both, the one on the right is complete inside, gardens just being finished and the left hand side one is still having finishing touches to the inside done.
PS.. I work for a land surveying company and did an as built survey of site yesterday (25/09/2007)
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two image taken on 25/09/2007..
both of plot 2, the right hand side house..
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