Tuesday, December 22, 2009

New Town Councillor

Welcome to new Swanage Town Councillor, Angelo Wiggins, co-opted by the Swanage Town Council yesterday to replace Constance Gainsborough who recently passed away.

While it's good to have a young person on the Council, I think it is appropriate to say a few words, as others may be interested in the 'democratic' process of selection.

When a vacancy like this occurs, unless ten or more electors call for an election, the elected Council members can co-opt a member of the community without election. The Lib Dems volunteered NOT to call an election (and so save the town the cost of more than £5000) on the understanding that the majority Conservative councillors (nine or perhaps ten out of eleven) would select someone who had previously either stood for election  or had actually previously served on the Council.

The issue of co-option was tabled for a Policy and Planning meeting yesterday morning (Monday 21st).There were three candidates: Angelo Wiggins (Conservative), Philippa Keeling (Lib Dem) and Cherry Bartlett (Labour).

I initially called for this item to be postponed for the next full, evening, meeting of the Council, on the grounds that it would be more democratic for the debate to held at a forum that would have more of the public present (as well as perhaps all the other councillors). This was over-ruled. I then noted that the papers relating to the candidates had only been circulated at the beginning of the meeting. I observed my understanding that procedure required that briefing papers should be provided three working days before a meeting. This was also over-ruled.

I then proposed that it would be democratically proper for the Council to elect someone who had stood before the electorate previously and/or who had served the community. I initially proposed Philippa Keeling, who had gained around 500 votes at a previous election. I went on to propose that, if she were not elected, then Cherry Bartlett should be elected, as someone who has previously served with credit on the town council. Voting was held, and I voted for Philippa Keeling while all seven others there (Mike Pratt, Bill Trite, Lawrence Gloyn Cox, Mike Whitwam, Alison Patrick, Steve Poultney and Colin Bright) voted for Angelo Wiggins, who was duly selected. (Councillors absent were Gloria Marsh, Barry Audley and Gary Suttle)

While I wish Angelo well, I feel it is worth letting people know that this is how democracy works in Swanage. It may be legally acceptable but I personally think it is morally disgraceful and is another example of why and how the Council as a whole gets its reputation for doing as it wishes behind closed doors, exploiting its majority to its own ends.

Of course, the response I usually receive when I make such observations is that the councillors have been elected by the community to act on their behalf. Which, of course, is entirely true. So perhaps all of you out there who vote Conservative are perfectly happy. And yes, the town has after all voted for the council representatives it wants. Next town elections in 2011.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

But wouldn't the same thing have happened if Labour, or LibDems, held a strong majority on STC? Is it fair to imply it is a Tory ruse?

The problem lies in the rules. An election could have been forced by a minority party. Anyone could see what would happen. Why wasn't there a bye-election to fill this seat? Even democracy costs money.

I suppose it isn't the end of the world.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Postman, for letting us know and for explaining how it came about.

Happy Christmas!

Mike Hadley said...

Any ten people, whether from a political party or not, could have called a by-election. The Lib Dems COULD have forced an election. But On this occasion, and bearing in mind an election would cost around £5000 or more, they had discussions with the Conservatives, and understood that they (as the majority group) would co-opt someone who had good credentials to serve : ie who had previously stood for an election or who had served on the Council before. But they did not.

Anonymous said...

So all this BS on here about young people new blood ect does not count mike because the Libdems are miffed because they did not get who they wanted. Sour grapes?

Anonymous said...

Swanage town politics never cease to provide entertainment. Much needed on a cold winter's night!

Paul. said...

I'm flabberghasted that such an undemocratic election could possibly take place anywhere in the UK! It may be only one seat, but freedom of choice has been breached, I think?

Oddly enough, with this council sitting on several million, they clearly do not see that there would be any chance of a majority going against their own, and spending on the democratic process, a small part of it?

How 'public spirited' of them ... I will not suggest corruption, but it is obviously a nice little club and an even nicer little earner, and to be shared amongst 'friends'.

The Swanage electorate have been well and truly pushed into insignificance, surely?

Of course, without a proper weekly newspaper/journal for the area, (apologies to the free ones who have financial limits and do a good job as and when they publish) to carry the appropriate notice to the public, many, including myself were unaware that this situation to find another councillor was, sadly, necessary. How often do we read the noticeboard outside the Town Hall?

Paul.

Am I being a little naughty?

Anonymous said...

Oh paul please be quiet. Hadley will always moan. How were you originally elected mike ? via a ballot or co opted.? I have heard some get co-opted then assinate those who gave their blessing.

Can you help on that subject mike?

If co-option is going to take place. its "bleedin" obvious that the ruling party have the most say.


Perhaps STC took a leaf out of neliebour book and elected some one with out a vote. Madleson anyone?

Anonymous said...

So is Angelo Conservative then, or is this the only way he could get in. An independent would have been a refreshing concept. Why play party politics at this level??

Paul. said...

Anon 11.41 pm ... never heard of thr freedom of speech around here then ... it happens everywhere else, I am led to believe?

Talk about closed shop politics, and the refusal to allow an opposing view, from myself, in this case.

What one must realize is that people fought for democracy over the years and in this situation, it makes one wonder exactly why?

There is clearly what is called a 'ruling class' in these parts and those who think otherwise, should ... as you write ..."Please, be quiet!"

Sad state of affairs.

Paul. (And I am not afraid to put a name to what I write, in sincerety.)

The Postman said...

Anon 1141 asked how I was elected. Happy to reply. I have absolutely nothing against co-option, and voted on Monday to co-opt people who had been voted for by the community. For the record, before being elected at the last election, in the previous term I was originally co-opted — as someone who had stood for election before, had missed being elected by just five votes (and three recounts) and was the candidate with the next highest number of votes. I'd call that fairly good grounds for co-option.

Anonymous said...

Great news that Angelo is a town Councillor.
Don't really care how he got voted on or which party he's for, just glad that at long last there's a young person on the council. He's a local businessman and has a young family, great for the town to have a fresh perspective on the council.
Good luck Angelo

Anonymous said...

I agree entirely with the above post, good luck Mr Wiggins!

Anonymous said...

in the previous term I was originally co-opted

Thats my point Im led to beleive, and correct me if Im wrong you were co-opted on with the agreement of the local tories. Perhaps they have waited a while for payback? I think it's a bit rich by you harping on about this.

The other point is did not the voters of that ward want a tory?

So why co-opt a libdem or labour?

Anonymous said...

never heard of thr freedom of speech around here then ... it happens everywhere else, I am led to believe?
Not under newliebour no such thing.

And please refer to my post about MH being co-opted. perhaps if you were about a few years ago you would know about that. He is being a hypocrite as per normal.

Anonymous said...

well done angelo!

Paul. said...

Anonymous, if you ain't gonna use a name of any sort, I ain't gonna bother searching for your posts to check and re-check what you have written and at what time of day, though I accept this anonimity, it is not necessary, any nickname will do, it makes life so much easier.

Since coming across Swanageview, I read all of these posts and accept all views and try to analyse from whence they came ... to try and see a divide you might say? Very well put in most cases, and I fancy that not everyone in this beautiful area is anti-newcomer nor are they automatically Conservative even if they probably do attend 'The Club'!

Paul.

Anonymous said...

A fantastic christmas present to swanage! A new young councillor.

Holly said...

What more could Swanage ask for on the council. A young business and family man that is in touch with the town. I hold great hope for what Mr Wiggins can bring to the table.

Anonymous said...

Having a young councillor could well be a good thing, but isn't this really about "... who had previously stood for an election or who had served on the Council before. But they did not."

An agreement was made and then broken. That's what we should be 'up in arms' about.

Politicians not keeping their word, sadly, we shouldn't be surprised!

As an aside, is he younger than the Ms's Keeling and Bartlett?

Anonymous said...

'What more could Swanage ask for on the council.'

Perhaps a new Town Clerk? Santa, Santa, just leave one under the tree....

I have just had it confirmed by somebody in the know this WILL happen in the new year!

Anonymous said...

Re: 12:13

February 28th, put your money on it.

Anonymous said...

This constant ribbing of the Town Clerk is really, and I mean, really, pathetic.

Perhaps the numpties who keep on getting at him have no, and I mean, no, understanding of his role.

The Town Clerk is enabled to carry out the Councils bidding. Anything the Town Clerk does has to have the OK of the Council.

IF, and it's a BIG if, he is doing anything to break this contract then it's the Councils fault and not his.

IF, and it's a BIG if, he is going early then the Council have probably discovered something that will bring them into even more disrepute.

Get off his back and vote in an entirely different Council.

Whether you believe in them or not, vote for the person that you wouldn't normally vote for. Let's have a new Council.

I formally apologise for voting Conservative at the next election - damn!

Anonymous said...

Or maybe the Town Clerk might just want to retire? (Who could blame him?)

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the numpties who keep on getting at him have no, and I mean, no, understanding of his role.
As in interfering with various bussineses and individuals around town, ignoring people when they have genuine concerns and failure to respond to letters, misinforming the council about certain subjects. And then of course jsut being palin ignorant.

I think a lot of peopel understand his role.

Merry xmas

Anonymous said...

Still waiting for a reply to a query sent in 2 months ago, acknowledgement received but no answer to query. Publice servant???

Happy Christmas.

Anonymous said...

What I can't understand here as that as you, and seemingly, many others have had so much trouble, what did your Councillor do when you raised your problem with them? What did the local government ombudsman have to say? Why the hell haven't you sued your Solicitors who's letters have obviously been incompetent?

Happy New Year.

Anonymous said...

1:44

Been there done that etc etc. Lets just say most people who have dealt with the town clerk have found him to be- being nice now- very hard work, and I'm sure many will not mourn his leaving, if indeed that is correct.

Just because you have not had any problems with him does not mean others have not.

Guido said...

I can't believe the venom in this post, I have known Angelo and his family for years, and I personally think its a wonderful result.

Once again it looks like the issue is with the the process (regardless of cost) and not with the result, Having a 'relativity' young councilor from a strong local family who has a great interest in the future of Swanage, is surely a great result!!!!

I can't believe anybody who knows Angelo has a real complaint, the only complaints are from those who do not know Angelo.

Think of SWANAGE not of the politics!

Anonymous said...

Hear hear Guido!

Anonymous said...

OK, at the risk of being labelled a numpty (how quaint!), I over the weekend I was told by one Swanage Town Councilor, and one high level employee of STC, that Alan Leeson has told them (get it - straight from the horse's mouth) that he IS leaving sometime in the New Year.

Call me a numpty, or not 7.56- this news is of interest to Swanagers, no matter what you may think.

(STC has had a bit of a reputation for being the last to tell the people of Swanage what's going on. Often at the behest of Alan. So fair dues that this news should be broken here.)

Roll up yer sleeves, Martin lad, it's the prime time fer yer!

(And if you don't know who Martin is, YOU may be the numpty!)

Anonymous said...

Dear 9.08

my comment about numpties

"Perhaps the numpties who keep on getting at him have no, and I mean, no, understanding of his role."

was addressed to those who seem to think that he runs the town and forget that he is the agent of the Council.

As for the rumour that Mr Leeson is resigning - oh, the cheek! An employee resigns - how could such a thing happen!

As for me being a numpty, well, I probably am. I also know many people called Martin who could do the job, one of whom is already a STC employee. I also know a few called Martine, who could do it.

As most job have to be advertised and all applicants have a fair chance.

"In order to ensure that you provide equality of opportunity to all potential applicants it is generally recognised that vacancies should be advertised externally and as widely as possible. The decision as to whether to advertise externally in all circumstances will be dependant on the vacancy and the composition of your existing workforce, for example, an organisation may have a policy which states that positions at a certain level are advertised internally only, because they provide opportunity for promotion and there is generally a good gender, race, religious, etc, mix among the workforce who could potentially apply."

It remains to be seen what will happen, but I'm not off the bookies!

Yours numptily.

Anonymous said...

was addressed to those who seem to think that he runs the town and forget that he is the agent of the Council.
Problem IS, as many on here and others around town feel by what he says and does that he actually does run the town! if he dont want it we dont get it and thats a fact,

I beleive it his job to advise councillors on procedures etc, why would there be so many moans and groans on here and in general if he did his job correctlty.

My opinion of him is he is a power hungry conceited individual, and his leaving will be greatly appreciated.

As I and many have said just because you have had no problems with him, does not mean lots of others have not.

I am trying to keep this fairly light, but you obviously carry a torch for him.
His leaving will be met with high fives and asigh of relief.

Anonymous said...

Don't cheer yet. His mishandling of the sale of Swanage Bay View will come back to haunt Swanage. Darwin is discovering that the owners there have far more power than they were led to believe.

After all, a councillor admitted to me that the only people who could take over the site would be the owners themselves.

This saga isn't over yet - not by a long shot.