Thursday, June 16, 2005

Wheelie bins

All households should now have had a (geeen - cunning hint, eh) leaflet to explain the new wheelie bin scheme that starts on 3rd October.

One thing it doesn't tell you (that may be of interest, as far as the practicalities of storage) is the size of the bins: 1100mm high x 580mm wide x 720 deep.

Who knows whether the concept of fortnightly collections of rubbish will work, as far as smell and volume? The Council say it has worked elsewhere, so we shall have to see, though many doubt it.

Don't forget to use the Freepost form to tell the Council if you anticipate any difficulties: whether you won't be able to move a bin or have nowhere unobtrusive to keep one.

I understand, from correspondence I have had, that there is an expectation that bins should be hidden away, not left on public display in front gardens, side alleys etc. So if you won't be able to do this, tell them and insist on alternative arrangements. Otherwise Purbeck will look like a third world country in no time.

This is what I was told: "Ordinarily we would expect people to store their refuse, in their bin, wherever they store it at present. Individual difficulties will have to be resolved as the scheme progresses, but colleagues at other authorities have assured staff at Purbeck that most properties can find somewhere unobtrusive to store their bin."

For more information, contact:

Customer Services Officer: pamelabrace@purbeck-dc.gov.uk

Recycle Helpline: 01929 557279.

Posted by Mike Hadley

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting that info.
It seems to me that the older parts of Swanage are going to look terrible, for many have no back entrance. and indeed where do you put the bin except out on the pavement?

Just imagine what will happen on some of our narrow pavements, mums and little children off to school will have to walk out into the road to get round them.

There is in a great many areas no alternative to the bin in the centre of the pavement. not being awkward! just a matter of old roads and houses without a back entrance.

That will make our town look ghastly, can you imagine our old stone with narrow pavements and a bloody great wheely bins stuck out on the pavement all the way up the road.

I can see "turf the bin over" becoming a great sport for the late night revelers on their way home.
Dancing Ledge

Anonymous said...

What makes me cross is that the leaflet is still claiming that the introduction of wheelie bins has something to do with recycling. Purbeck District Council is stealing money that should be devoted to recycling projects for this cost-cutting exercise. (See previous correspondence). I could put up with a certain amount of inconvenience if wheelie-bins were going to help with recycling in some way. The same amount of rubbish is going to end up in land-fill. The trucks will just take it there fortnightly instead of weekly.

Anonymous said...

To be honest, not matter what you do, the bins get a bit smelly when the weather gets warm.

Can anyone imagine what Swanage will smell like after a fortnight of our "fabled hot weather"

The Bins may well get up and walk about on their own...It's a daft idea, it seems to have nothing to do with reclamation. more with cutting down on our service.

And Lord knows they are vanishing like snow in July.
Dancing Ledge

Anonymous said...

The postman just managed to climb the 3 storeys to my front door to deliver the info on wheelie bins. I would have to carry said bin down those stairs every fortnight jam packed with 2 weeks rubbish. And I would need to do this every bin day, not the night before as I just know I'd be searching for it off of Durlston Head. Holidays would be know good unless they fall after a bin day otherwise a plague would erupt from bin on my return.

Mr Royston Vasey

Anonymous said...

It doesn't inspire much confidence in Purbeck District Council when you read on the website in their news items that the Government is increasing landfill tax and the charge to dispose of a tonne of waste will rise from £15 to £35 by 2001.
One assumes that, as the council may still be firmly in the 20th century, they might consider 2001 as being in the future.
But it surely isn't that difficult to copy accurately what is in the leaflet they are sending out to all and sundry.
The correct date should of course be 2011.
You'd think someone would have noticed.
This is a contentious issue and you'd think they'd make a better stab at trying to be correct in what they are telling the world.
But, there again, the track record isn't that brilliant.
The website has what council said when it made this decision in February to scrap the weekly black sack collection.
They announced it as an extension of kerbside recycling collections across the district.
I'd say that was less than frank.
What the council said was this: "Purbeck District Councillors have agreed to extend kerbside recycling across the whole of the district. At the council meeting of 22nd February, Councillors agreed to implement a new Alternate Weekly Collection scheme from this coming autumn. The new initiative, which will enable all households to participate in the green kerbside box recycling scheme, is being introduced to help meet strict government targets on the recycling of household waste. The scheme is also being extended to include the collection of grey card."
It's only when reading further on you discover what this alternate weekly collection scheme really means. "Residents will receive wheelie bins for their rubbish and green kerbside boxes will be distributed to households that don't already have them. The Alternate Weekly Collection scheme - the most cost-effective way of introducing the dual collection - will mean that residents' recyclables are collected every second week and the household rubbish collected in the alternate week. Over one hundred councils in the UK are already operating the scheme successfully."

Anonymous said...

Rather than complain here why not go to the Purbeck District Council meeting at 7 o'clock on Tuesday 21 June in the Council Chamber at Westport House in Wareham and use the opportunity for the public to speak. There are items on the agenda about the wheelie bins and the expensive publicity campaign to attempt to win over the public to not having bins collected every week. It's about time there was some reaction in public to this. I don't suppose it's possible to stop it, but there is always a chance that it might be improved. In other places where the fortnightly collections have been introduced ther is also a garden waste collection and a proper recycling collection. This one doesn't even include plastics. It's token recycling to meet targets judged on weight and almost wholly inadequate.

Postman2 said...

What I can't understand is the problem with trade waste. I buy a bottle of beer in the supermarket and I can put it in the bottle bank; but if I buy it in the pub the landlord commits and offence putting it in the bottle bank. Similarly if I pay for someone to cut my grass, they cannot take that grass up to the garden waste skip. Presumably very little of the cardboard, glass, plastic etc produced by local business and collected by SITA is recycled?

Anonymous said...

Nick,

I can confirm that all the trade waste disposed of by SITA goes into landfill. We produce a shed load of cardboard waste each week, if we take it up to the tip, we run the risk of being fined for trying to recycle!

What irony! Except, over the last 2 years our cost of waste disposal has doubled due to the introduction of the landfill tax. We could half our waste by recycling paper and cardboard, but will see no saving for doing so and there is no incentive to do so!

Andy

Anonymous said...

Did you see what the council thinks should be done if you miss a fortnightly wheelie bin collection.
In the paper tonight Roger Whalley, deputy chief executive of Purbeck council, said there should not be any health problems or smell if people wrap their food in plastic bags before putting them in the bins.
"We certainly don't ignore the possibility (of fly-tipping) and we're advising people that if they miss, for any reason, putting their bin out, to take their refuse to one of two bulky household waste sites, Wareham or Swanage."
Does he mean we are going to have to buy plastic bags to wrap food scraps? Supermarket bags all have holes in them for safety reasons.
How are you going to get 240 litres of two or more week old rubbish out of a bin and up to the tip? Would you like to try? With goo oozing from the bags and stinking the car (for ever)? Does everyone live that close to those two tips? Is that the quality of the advice on offer?

Anonymous said...

The whole idea of two week bin emptying in a holiday town is farcical. the smell will be awful in the Summer time. Bins will, in many cases, have to be left out on the pavements.

As I said earlier, the next thing will be tip up the wheely bins on the way home from the pub.
Shambles and very expensive one at that!
Dancing Ledge

The Postman said...

I can't have read the small print. properly.

I have just discovered that even if PDC do keep the black-bag service for people with any difficulty over wheelie bins, they will still only collect fortnightly!

So people will
a/ have more smelly rubbish lying around
b/ have it lying around for a week longer
c/ have to buy extra bins
d/ have to find somewhere to store extra bins
e/ have more bags to carry out

Mike Hadley

Postman2 said...

If there is some reason why we must go to a two weekly system, how about a few industrial wheelies at strategic car parks emptied daily. The stickers that have gone up on the Town bins really annoy me. OK we don't want people to cram all their rubbish into the litter bins, but take for example someone living in a Town centre flat, say one of the ones at Haymans with no car spaces. They don't want smelly waste hanging around for two weeks. Where are they going to take it?
Remember when Swanage used to be Dog Mess City? The problem was largly solved by installing more, regularly emptied, dog litter bins. Not by asking people to take their bags of poo home with them.

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